Sunday, November 1, 2009

Common Sense and Practicality Research: The Breath, Indigo's, Energy, Positive thoughts, Compromise, Feelings/Emotions, Drugs and Self Honesty

Desteni forum question: Is in breath and out breath polarities?

My perspective: Breathing in itself is not polarity as it is a physical action that supports the physical and is the actual stability point here as ourselves within THE PHYSICAl. Polarity is the information opposites that have energetic charges within a being depending on the value we have given the information - based on right/wrong, good/bad.
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Youtube comments:

‘Indigos are the colour of the aura and same applies to Rainbow and all special ones there are many different type not just three and you should be scanned the aura that is. Crystal children also have a bond with crystals and will know what they do and can heal with these. I know what I am and don't need anyone to tell me. The reason some list what they are is to help other like them or to help tell if others are. Empaths are those who have empathy for others and can take on peoples illness etc.’
My perspective: No human is 'special' and your comment illustrates how dishonest humans are - we accept and allow live in a world of abuse, torment, poverty, starvation, greed, rape and all you have to say is: 'Indigos are the colour of the aura and same applies to Rainbow and all special ones there are many different type not just three and you should be scanned the aura that is. Crystal children also have a bond with crystals and will know what they do and can heal with these...
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Youtube comment: Energy will keep you alive:

My perspective: Interesting - we all die, so already there your theory is based on hope not actuality. So where do you go to after death? You assume that energy remains after death. If you use basic common sense you will notice that energy has a beginning and an end and requires your participation in something for it to run through you like waves - you'll notice within yourself you create this energy through participating in thoughts, feelings/emotions, pictures or fear.
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Youtube Comment: I am doing this daily, charging my thoughts with ultra positivity for the earth, the future will be a positive one for humanity because we will make it so. we know this and are living it now.

My perspective:
So could we please start measuring how much ultra positivity you radiate and by how much rape, war, murder, abuse and greed reduces? Because for the amount of people who have been repeating this bulshit for the last 20 years - I would say that things should be getting better. Your positive thoughts are preventing you from ACTUALLY seeing what is existing and that things are not changing -question is are you willing to give up this illusion or are you only doing this to feel good?
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Youtube comments saying we attack people through our comments – by trying to use guilt on them by saying that we are all responsible for the abuse that exists here.

My perspective: Who lives on this planet? You do. Your channel is all about you boosting and promoting your ego - you don’t actually present any practical solutions - I would start there when taking on dishonesty - because to say: 'guilt trip monologue' to others while you only talk ego - is hypocritical.
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Desteni forum discussion: Compromise within agreements:

My perspective: Establish what it is that you agree upon, then agree what points will be worked on to assist each person with. Within that you communicate and express and sometimes 'problems; arise which might lead to an argument etc.
When this happens you communicate about the points and clarify how each person contributed to that point - and each being within themselves stops, takes self responsibility and self forgives.

Therefore there will be points within the agreement, I have found -where you have to walk through. The point of no compromise is when one or both beings are deliberately allowing old patterns to re-occur without change without self direction. The point of ‘no-compromise – it when the actual point of the agreement is compromised – which is to support each other while directing self in self honest self expression. Compromise in an agreement exists when one being is unwilling to change according to what is best for all – and then manipulates the other person or the agreement to change so that they may remain the same. If within that the being does face points of change – the agreement supports the being – even though difficult - because you understand that the point of the agreement is because each being will face certain points – things are not perfect – but a clear direction within the agreement is your guideline as to what you will accept and allow.
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Youtube comment: if you think or feel you are the manifestation of dishonesty"!? What? So what is the point of us being here then? "Self-honesty cannot exist if the mind exists" You can't drop these in there without a useful explanation, LIFE is the tool for realising who you are.

My perspective: We have published many videos and documents explaining how our participation within pre-programmed thoughts, feelings and emotions has a direct outflow in how the world is created. Look at it for yourself - all world events and abuse - first exists within you as your secret little thoughts and desires and addictions and emotions and feelings. Self honest self expression does not require of me to exist as a emotion or feeling - I AM HERE
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Youtube comment: I disagree. Tradition is necessary. I think people need to know where they come from, they need to connect with their roots. Sure, not all such connections end up bringing a sense of security or enlightenment, but the lack thereof would create an anarchy of societal thought, nothing could ever be done cus everyone is just agreeing to disagree. A certain amount of control is beneficial, it creates order.

My perspective: I am here already – you are already here - so any form of need - such as needing culture or religion is deliberate separation and dishonesty - done by beings who want to be special, want to be protected and want their special personality to be supported by like 'minded' people who will supports each other’s dishonesties - made up to support greed and self gratification. With an equal money system we can stop the methods through which people survive as imagination and hope.
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Desteni forum discussion: Drugs assisted me in calming down and talking:

My perspective: I suggest bring that experience of clarity and calmness that the drugs assisted you with - into your expression one and equal - start noticing yourself as the breath in situations where you would find it difficult talking or just being with yourself. Then take directive principle - and where the drug would have 'taken you into the experience' - you now slow yourself down within breathing to stand AS that point - as self direction.
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Youtube comment on: Religion and equal money:

My perspective: An equal money and equal labour system - will stop many forms of self-abuse and self trying to survive through - culture, religion, society, relationship... Many of these CONstrusts were designed because man fears death through fearing survival through lack of money. Thus give each equal money/equal labour and god won’t exist - god stands as the hope that everything will be 'ok'. Equal living will step forth when there is equal opportunity - therefore hope structures like religion will fall away.
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Youtube comment: Why is Self honesty and self forgiveness linked?

My perspective: By being frankly honest about who you are, what you accept and allow, what you participate in, what you have become - then you self forgive these points of self programming to stand one and equal to what is best for all. Because in SF you don’t ‘delete’ the past - you take responsibility for what you have allowed and change yourself through breath. Physical pain and discomfort shows points of dishonesty – see structural resonance videos/documents on web site

By deliberately 'holding onto that which you will not forgive' is a direct statement of self-sabotage and justification - because what you are saying is that you might talk about not doing the same thing again but in the self abuse of not letting go and walking purified of the past - you are punishing self - and will time loop again into an event where you do something unforgivable again. Self responsibility indicates that you are self aware within your actions to not allow the past again, but also implies that you forgive yourself – otherwise it would not be ‘responsibility towards self.’ In self honesty – one realises the deception of not forgiving self. Not forgiving self is also a point of giving up –and allowing the past to repeat.
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Youtube Comment: You Desteni people don’t allow discussions on your Youtube comments – you attack people that don’t agree with you.

My perspective: No what you will find is that we support practical common sense solutions that all are willing to live and walk as themselves - when people start bringing in beliefs, religion, ascension, self-interest, spirituality, god - as a means of deliberate abdication and justification to not taking self responsibility - we will point it out - and yes that is when people react - because they have defined themselves according to their beliefs - that we show does not support all.
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Desteni Forum post: The secret mind

My perspective: In your post the experience that you are describing is that of you accessing your ‘Secret Mind.’ I make this post because I notice people asking the question often of ‘but what if there are thoughts deep inside me that will actually make my life more exiting/fulfilling?’ If you look at your words and questions with regards to ‘thoughts’ – you are looking for the beautiful, the metaphysical, the mystical – the possibility that some thoughts – hidden somewhere deep within us are actually worth while exploring.

These are the thoughts within the secret mind – which is actually what directs each person. For example: you might consciously have a thought that goes: ‘I want to be special’ – this thought is linked through the subconscious to the emotion and feelings you associate with: feeling special’- this links through to unconscious programming and physical programming that you act out physically – to on a daily basis attempt to experience yourself as ‘feeling special/more than/with purpose.’
Underneath all of this – we have the secret mind. These are the hidden thoughts that are usually accessed as ‘strange’ thoughts such as: I won’t mind having sex with 5 men or I wonder what it would be like to have sex with an animal or maybe one day I will pick up a gun and shoot my family. These are the thoughts that direct your conscious thoughts of for example ‘wanting to feel special.’ These thoughts are hidden because they act as a backdoor – access point. These are thoughts that are triggered I noticed mostly b y symbology, tonality, movements, Impulsing etc: all the deeper trigger points we are not aware of. For example the points within our world we won’t talk about and only suppress. I mean who wants to talk about ‘wondering what it would be like to have sex with an animal?’ Yet it is because we are not willing to look that deep within the secret mind – to have a better understanding of the more ‘superficial’ thoughts based in the conscious, subconscious or unconscious. Because we don’t go into the deeper symbolic programmed thoughts (secret thoughts) – due to our idea of right and wrong – we don’t ever actually unconditionally look at how our day to day thoughts are triggered on a deeper level.

So within your post I see the words and questions you are using to explore your secret mind’s desires. A yearning to find a deeper level to beingness within the functionality of thoughts. Thoughts in their nature are in separation to this physical reality – thus what we repeat at Desteni is that to exist in this world – according to what is best for all – we focus on directing ourselves here in practical common sense. Thus when existing pre-programmed thoughts come up –‘telling us to do something’ – we stop, look at where the thought comes from, why we participate, stop the value system we have created – within that thought – so that we are no longer directed by thoughts – to move us through and as Mind Control. So when one starts peeking into ‘the thoughts that might be beautiful, interesting, fulfilling’ – I suggest take a self honest look at remaining practical within that.

The secret mind thoughts will try to ‘secretly’ find ways for you to survive within your world.
This is why we suggest to people to focus on directing our thoughts that actually support us all here equally – so that eventually we stop having ‘thoughts’ as programmed symbolic responses – dependent on a system functioning – but instead all live as one – walk as one- talk as one. Then thoughts won’t have to ‘pop’ up in our minds telling us according to our systematic programming what to say – who to be.
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Youtube comment: Hope and Belief:

My perspective: Hope implies that you are powerless because you sit and wait for something or someone else to sort out this mess. Believe is useless because it indicates that you have an idea in your mind that is not physically manifested in this world - and thus remains a belief. I suggest focus on what you are actually able to do to direct and find solutions in this world - which you live as yourself.
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Desteni forum discussion: People don’t possess themselves – it’s demons that possess us and the portal gets possessed because she ‘channels’:

My perspective: The portal is a portal not a channel. Demons speak through her. I suggest read through the FAQ especially with regards to demons, the portal, self responsibility and blame.

quote:I don't believe we are the demon possessing ourselves

In your words what you are saying is that you will continue to not take full responsibility for the emotional energetics that you participate in - because you will always fall back on 'but maybe and entity or demon is doing this to me.' I have been demon possessed as well and upon looking back at the experience I realised that this energetic experience of a 'being leaving my body' which I have played with often can be simulated by the mind. Thus I suggest realise that when you experience an entity or demon taking you over - you are creating this experience through your mind. The point here is to not have to 'speculate' - do demons exist or don’t they - the point we suggest at Desteni is: when you start experiencing an entity or demon taking you over – stop and take self responsibility. Look at where you are allowing this.

People assume that demons are responsible for what they experience without ACTUALLY communicating with demons or actually having an effective reference point other than ‘it’s a feeling.’ So I would suggest realise that what you experience is mostly due to what you have read in books.

Quote: My understanding is that demons are the spirits of the nephilim, the hybrid offspring of angels and humans

This is an example of how you have adapted your experiences you accepted and allowed (as you mention in your first post) into hearsay, simply because you don’t stick to basic common sense, but you attach stories, theories and other people’s opinions to what you experienced. Now it brings you to a point of ‘elaborating’ on what demon possession is – instead of actually supporting beings in stopping possession – through stopping what they accept and allow within themselves.

People who speak about demon possession from a knowledge and information perspective do so to entertain themselves – this is indicated in how much fun people have in comparing possession stories and whether their theory about demons outweighs the next person’s. Nobody asks the question, why do demons exist? Why do I accept and allow possession rather than sharing practical solution that each person may utilize to stop themselves from becoming possessed?

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